Monthly Archives: May 2017

Windy Windsor at Knebworth Shoot

It was my first time attending the Green Dragon Bowmen shoot at Knebworth House. This annual event see’s us shooting a Windsor round (60yds, 50yds, 40yds) with other junior rounds available. Green Dragon Bowmen shoot on straw bosses and they fix the bosses in place and just move the shooting line (well this was already laid out, we just moved forward at every new distance).

The backdrop behind you on the shooting line is the impressive Knebworth House. Beside that is the cafe and then the toilets which only opened at 11am – the shoot started at 10.30 but we stopped for a toilet break after the first scoring end once the toilets had opened. After the 60 yard distance it was lunch until 1pm when we started the 50 yard distance and then there was another break in the afternoon before we shot the 40 yard distance.

It was a very well organised shoot and parking was very close-by. I’m also glad that you could enter the competition via email and use PayPal for payment, I can’t stand cheques and paying for stamps to post entry forms off.

The only downside to the whole day for me was shooting into straw targets, but there were over 20 targets on the field, so purchasing this many Danage targets would have been very expensive although layered foam targets are not much more costly than straw.

It is also worth noting that the field is very open and in May 2017 it was very windy that day. At the 60 yard distance I found myself aiming in the white on left hand side of the target to get the arrow to land in the centre of the target. As we moved closer to the targets and the wind slowed a little I then changed to aiming at the blue and then the red to centre my shots.

I finished the shoot with a score of 777 with only one miss. This was a PB for me, as I had never shot a Windsor before but it also turned out to be a club record as well beating the previous record by something like 12 points.

Green Dragon Bowmen Windsor 2017 TargetsGreen Dragon Bowmen Targets

Green Dragon Bowmen Scoring

Knebworth House

Hoyt Carbon ACE Limbs Review

I had been using my Hoyt 720 Carbon limbs for about 9 months when I found a great price on some Hoyt Carbon ACE limbs. I loved my Hoyt 720 limbs and if I had not found these Carbon ACE limbs I would never have upgraded.

Back in 2016 the Hoyt 720 limbs were the kind of the entry level carbon recurve limbs, (there is also the Excel limb which is cheaper) then came the Hoyt Carbon ACE limbs and then the Hoyt Quattro limbs. In 2017 the 720 limbs stopped being produced and were replaced by the Hoyt 840 limb. The Carbon ACE limbs were still being produced but the Hoyt Quattro limbs where replaced by the Carbon X Tour limbs which are available with a foam core or bamboo core.

Hoyt ACE limbs vs Hoyt 720 limbs

The Hoyt Carbon ACE limbs at RRP are nearly double the price, but what is the difference? Well the 720 Carbon limbs have a wood core whilst the Carbon ACE limbs have a foam core. Some people prefer a wood core, as on the Hoyt Quattro you could actually choose between the two. I think some people are worried the foam core limbs will weaken and snap.

When un-boxing the Hoyt Carbon ACE limbs you still get the nice Hoyt limb covers, a sticker, user manual and this time I also got a Hoyt keychain lanyard. I bought the medium 38lb limbs.

When shooting the Carbon ACE limbs I was expecting them to be faster and so alter my sight marks, but my sight marks barely moved at all. Also the ‘feel’ of the 720 and the Carbon ACE limbs was not really that noticeable at all.

Overall thoughts

But I certainly won’t be changing these Hoyt Carbon ACE limbs anytime soon, unless something goes wrong with them or I need lower powered limbs as I get older.

So overall I recommend trying out both sets of limbs to see if you can tell the difference. Although now you’ll probably have to compare the Hoyt 840 limbs to the Carbon ACE limbs as the 720 limbs will soon be difficult to find new.

It would be fun to compare the Hoyt 720 vs Hoyt 840 limbs though, as the 840 limbs are more expensive than the 720 – and has anything really changed other than the graphics?


Easton XX75 2016 G Nock Small Uni Bushings

Easton XX75 2016 G Nock Small Uni Bushings or how to get G nock smalls to fit in 2016 XX75 arrows.

I started archery with a set of 1916 Easton XX75 Platinum Plus arrows that were fitted with Easton G nock smalls. I used these arrows for ages before deciding on some Easton ACC arrows for outside which also took the Easton G nock smalls. When it came to replace my 1916 XX75 arrows I moved to a 2016 XX75 arrow. What I noticed straight away was that my favourite Easton G nock smalls were nowhere to be found instead I had now got some Easton Super nocks because the diameter of the 2016 arrows is too big to take the G nock smalls.

I shot with the super nocks for quite a while before deciding that my string was too loose in the nock and I wanted to change the nock.

So how do you fit a G nock small to an XX75 2016 arrow?

Well you buy some Easton Lightspeed uni-bushings which will fit directly into the super nock bushings.

Just remove your Easton super nocks, hot glue in the Easton Lightspeed uni-bushings (when cool) then insert your Easton G nock smalls – sorted.

Alternatively you could keep the Easton super nocks on your 2016 arrows and just increase the strand size of your string or add extra serving to your string, for me it was cheaper to add in the Lightspeed uni-bushings plus all my nocks are now the same size on all my arrows. This also means I only have to buy and carry one size of nock.

Easton Super Nock on 2016 (top) vs Easton G Nock Small on 1916 (bottom)

Easton G Nock Small vs Easton Super Nock

Remove the Easton Super Nock

remove the easton super nock

Add the Lightspeed Uni Bushing (hot glue)

Add Lightspeed uni-bushing to 2016 arrows

Now when cool attach the Easton G Nock small nocks.

Add G Nock small to 2016 arrow

Easton Screw in Arrow Points and Inserts

I bought my ACE arrows 2nd hand and it took me ages to work out they had screw-in points. It only realised it when one of the arrows rattled and I found out it was because the screw-in point had come loose. It worried me at first as all my other arrows had nibb and bullett points.

But why was I worried? I now think screw-in points are a lot nicer than fixed points. The main reason of course is that you can easily change points. This can be really useful when playing about with point weights. I just unscrew the current ones and screw in the new ones. If I had the larger break-off points I can’t test points weights as once I have broken off the weights I can’t put them back on again!

The only downside to having screw-in points is that they can come loose quite a lot – you’ll know when your arrows rattle!

Some people advise using some hot melt and then screwing in the point and then heating up the point again to unscrew them. This is fine if you are set on your point weight and don’t plan on taking them out whilst on the shooting range. If you want a more intermediate solution then just put some string wax on the threads of the point and screw them in. The points should now stay put a lot longer.

The images below show the ACE insert (59 grains) and 2 points weights for my ACE arrows. The shorter point weight is 31 grains and longer one is 41 grains.

I started off with the 59+31 = 90 grains but have since decided to go for the heavier 41 grain points which makes 100 grains in total.

When trying both out I expected the sight marks to differ greatly increasing the point weights by 10 grains, but I did not really see any change at all. The heavier points seemed to find their way to the target easier and seemed to go exactly where you aimed them when shooting 60 yards with a moderate breeze.

Do note though that the heavier points are longer so you will need to make sure you move your clicker forward.

Easton ACE insert and 31 and 41 grain points

ACE screw in points and insert

Easton ACE insert and 31 grain points

31 grain screw in point and 59 grain insert

Easton ACE insert and 41 grain points

41 grain screw in point and 59 grain insert